I have a standing offer for all Newsviners: Send me a book, cd, dvd, you made and I'll do an interview with you about it, which helps promote and publicize your product while giving me and those reading it the chance to get to know you better in the process.
Last week, for example, I published the first part of my interview with Pamela Drew about her dvd about GMO's.
I actually had no idea what CartoonCat's book was about when I agreed
to do the interview about it. Only last week did I get around to
reading Rebecca's review of it.
So CartoonCat doesn't yet know of an odd coincidence of the
it's-a-small-world variety, namely the city where I live (Hagerstown,
Md.) has a sister city which is… you guessed it… in Germany. Wesel,
Germany, to be specific. Also, I'm part German. So I may have more
connections to this book than CartoonCat initially anticipated.
With that, let's get this interview going.
Scott: Let's start with something you said via email:
"I don't have a blog (actually the book came about because I'd been
about to start a blog... and then I realised that what I wanted to write
was a book - maybe that's why the book is split into little anecdotes
which are all about the size of blog entries...)"
Can you elaborate?
It was 2004 and I'd just started to discover online communities. I
started posting little snippets and anecdotes about quirky things that
happened in Germany - and I got a lot of great feedback from other
community members. A recurring theme was either "You should write a
blog" or "You should write a book." Initially I thought a blog would be
less daunting. But as I thought about it more, I realised it was a book I
wanted to write. I wanted something I could hold in my hand. Turn the
pages. I wanted people to read it and re-read it.... not just have to
search back through google to find a particular entry...on its own...
out of context....
So a book it was.
Scott:What is Planet Germany about? Did I miss a news story and Germany became a planet?
Actually it wouldn't surprise me. (But I missed that story too... Newsvine obviously didn't give it front page coverage)
But if you land here...on Planet Germany during, say, Karneval...you
wouldn't necessarily recognise it as Planet Earth. Those tedious
straight-laced Germans we all know about - you know, the ones with no
sense of humour, who don't know how to enjoy themselves.... well they
all get up in fancy-dress costumes and hold a week-long street party
involving quantities of alcohol which would keep a small Balkan state
supplied for a year. Not only that they forcibly eject the Burgermeister
(mayor) from his Town Hall, snip off his tie (that's symbolic for
emasculation - yes I know, I know, too much information...), and the
clowns and jokers take over government....
(Hmmm... now I mention it, maybe it's not that different from Planet Earth after all....)
Scott:What made you decide to write the book?
Living in another culture is a fabulous and unique experience. Unique
in the sense that nobody else experiences it quite the way you do.
I have three kids who are growing up in Germany - and were under the
impression that this culture is normal. I wanted mainly to write it for
them - to show them through a different perspective, how all the
incidents and adventures we've had, which are their "normality" are
actually weird and wonderful to some people - including their mother!
We had a great time over the many months when I was writing. I used
to read out bits of what I'd written to the kids - and they'd fall over
laughing and say: "I never saw it that way before!" It really brought us
together as a family - and made us talk a lot about experiences we'd
shared. I mean talk on a different level... about things like, "What's
really bizarre about going to the supermarket...." In "normal life" you
don't even talk about those things - they're like life's wallpaper. And
suddenly you start to see everything a little differently. Life has a
whole new texture....
Scott: What were your goals with this book? Did you accomplish it?
What I wanted to achieve was a picture of life, our life, over one
year which happened to be quite a seminal year for many of us. I was
starting a new business, two of my kids were changing school. We were
all growing and experiencing some important personal milestones.
There are some messages in the book - about culture clashes and how
we relate to and accommodate each other's cultures - but the primary aim
is to entertain. We enjoy our life here. I mean...we really laugh a
lot. Lots of funny things happen to us - and they are stories which we
regale each other with daily. Those stories are the mainstay of the
Scott:When did it come out?
The book came out in November 2007 (according to the publisher),
though I only found it on Amazon and got my first copy on December 1. So
that's "my" publication date.
Scott: How has it been received?
The last month - ever since the book came out - has been absolutely
amazing. I've never experienced anything like it. I've been contacted by
all sorts of people I don't know (but who seem to think they know me
pretty intimately). I've been blogged about by people I've never heard
of! Like this: Unbelievable! An indonesian woman living in Cologne has bought my book and blogged about it! How cool is that?
I've had all sorts of reviews (you've probably only seen the ones on Amazon US - but take a look at Amazon.co.uk -
amazing!) and I've just been interviewed by one of the mainstream UK
newspapers (The Telegraph) - the review will probably be in February or
March, though - apparently there's a backlog.
What's really peculiar is that a lot of people who write to me after they've read Planet Germany, tell
me which was their favourite bit in the book. And so far (out of about
15 people) only two had the same story which was their favourite. Oddly
enough, it was the Oily Cat incident - which I nearly left out anyway as
it wasn't particularly related to culture-clashes and integration.
Scott: What do you do besides Newsvine and writing a book? Do you work? What kind of work?
I have my own consulting business, which I run from a pigsty along with my German business partner.
Scott: You said in your email to me that you like to travel – what is it about traveling that you like?
Actually, I take it back. I hate travelling. I hate airports, trains,
queues, document checks, petty dictators in peaked caps and not being
able to find a vacant toilet. OK - I've got that off my chest.
What I do like is living in another culture. Before Germany I
previously lived in the Netherlands and Belgium. And I fancy trying
another country in a few years. Maybe Italy or France - I'd like to go
somewhere with warmer weather for a change.
I like really getting under the skin of other cultures. Trying to
integrate - trying to see beyond the initial irritations ("I can't make
this work, I don't know what to do, how do I get the right documents"
etc.) and understand the philosophy, the humanity, the humour of
everyday situations as well as the extraordinary events which make life
You can only do that, though, if you are prepared to recognise your
own failings, accept that your own culture may be inferior in some (or
even all aspects), and that the only thing you can do to save your
dignity is laugh heartily at yourself.
Scott: Often authors are asked if the characters in their
books are based on real people but you say the opposite, if I understand
your email right? Can you explain? And real cats too?
Yes, the characters are based on real people, but they each have a
particular role to play in the book. As a result, certain character
traits are exaggerated, others are suppressed, so they no longer bear a
close resemblance to the individuals who inspired them. This is
particularly true of Birgit, my business partner, whose role in the book
is to disapprove of everything English. Actually, the real life woman
is a lovely tolerant Anglophile lady with a balanced and rounded
personality (OK - most days she is....). But the book wouldn't be funny
if I'd portrayed that side of her.
The cats are very real, and all the incidents relating to them
actually happened (I even used their real names). The white cat,
Constantine, says he's never helping me research a book again after the
Scott: What are you working on next?
Ooooh! The squillion dollar question!
I have three ideas at the moment. One's a thriller. A completely
different genre altogether - and I've got a great plot idea (but I can't
tell... it would spoil the ending already!). And there are two
potential "Planet Germany" offshoots. I'd love to write something
covering the subsequent period - including the World Cup in Germany
which was an absolutely fabulous and magical event for us... a whole
summer long. The other is a Prequel - when we first lived in North
Rhine Westfalia we were living in a bizarre and very quirky community
which for years we said someone should turn into a book or a soap opera -
it's just that such odd things happened that we thought nobody would
ever believe it. One day... I will have to tell that story.
I have a standing offer for all Newsviners: If you produce a movie,
publish a book, record an album, etc I'd like to interview you about it.
The idea is this would both help promote your product and result in an
Cathy took me up on that offer. I do my interviews
in two parts: Part one is about the life of the artist and their
intentions for the product. Part two, coming after I finish the book, is
focused more on questions about the book itself.
Cathy has written a hilarious book, which made me laugh out loud
several times, about what it was like for her British family to live in
She and her German business party, Birgit, work literally out a pigsty.
This is her first novel and I join others in hoping she writes a second.
Scott: What does Birgit think of the book?
Cathy: I gave a copy of the manuscript to Birgit before sending it to
press. She read about half of it and then said: "You can publish it if
you like—but I don't think anyone will laugh. It's all very boring and
just about normal life. Nobody does anything amusing or unusual."
But of course that's what you would expect Birgit to say.
What one reviewer said to me about Birgit is:
"As I read, I found myself wishing for as much of the characters in the
book as there is of Germany. Birgit for example. Hilarious. I wanted
more Birgit. More Birgit and less cats."
So I started thinking about a sequel, which goes far more deeply into
the dysfunctional relationship between the German and English business
partners. I've already mentioned it to the real-life Birgit as a
concept. I said: "It would be entitled something along the lines of
Things my German business partner and I have argued about."
Her response was to shrug and say: "Whatever you strange Brits think is
funny. But this time, make me a proper villain. The portrayal of me was
much too nice in the last one."
There's no pleasing some people, is there?
Scott: If you could go back and rewrite it would you have changed anything?
Cathy: No, I don't think so.
I get a very strange mixture of feedback about the book. Some people
hate the cats and love the Germans. Some hate the Germans and love the
cats. Birgit seems to be universally popular... and what everyone so far
has said is that the book made them laugh a lot.
Perhaps in the future I won't try to combine cats and Germans in the
same book... but on the other hand, the feedback has been so
overwhelmingly positive that I don't think it's really a problem.
Scott: What do you hope someone takes away from your book?
Cathy: My book is not intended to convey any deep fundamental
messages... I wrote it purely to entertain. If you're looking for
insights into the human condition or deep psycho drama, you'd better not
buy this book!
What I do hope people take away from Planet Germany is that wherever
you are in the world, the place is interesting and funny and you in that
place are the funniest thing of all. Most people think Germany is
fundamentally dull. Well, if you look at it through dull eyes, then it
will be dull. If you look at Germany through my eyes, it's an odd quirky
and fascinating place.
The key to living abroad is developing your senses. You need to see
below the surface, to listen to more than just the spoken words, to
delve for the underlying meaning and subtleties. And most of all, you
need to be able to laugh. As an ex-pat, you'll always be the fish out of
water. The butt of the jokes. The one who is helpless and baffled while
all around you seem to know what they're doing —however stupid it may
appear. Laugh at the situation, laugh at them and most of all laugh at
Scott: What do your German friends think of your book as opposed to your British friends?
Cathy: They all thought it was very funny. I suspect for a different set of reasons than the Brits.
I think what they see in it is the slapstick of British people making
their way, Benny-Hill-like, through a normal orderly society.
Occasionally falling flat on their faces, walking into ladders and
slipping on banana skins. But they do also appreciate the humour of
seeing their own country through different eyes.
Scott: Did the topic of World War II come up at all – Britain
and Germany being on opposites sides of that one- and was that awkward?
Cathy: I didn't write about this aspect of Anglo-German relations
deliberately. It's been done to death and it is simply not something I
want to dwell on. The war's been over for more than 50 years for
goodness sake! And yet every time England play Germany at football
(soccer to you!) the British headlines all draw parallels with the war. I
honestly think the Brits need to get over themselves on this point.
Scott: What is the biggest stereotype about Germany you found to be untrue?
Cathy: There are so many!
Seriously, I think two stand out. The first is that Germany is boring.
It isn't. It so isn't. It may be orderly... but it's weird, quirky, fun,
silly, funny, beautiful, eccentric.... need I go on?
The second is that Germans don't know how to enjoy themselves and can
only be serious. Again, totally untrue. Their enjoyment is often
meticulously planned and timetabled, such as Karneval, the Whitsun fair,
the Tanz in den Mai, the Oktoberfest and so on. But when those
festivities come around, the Germans let their hair down like no other
nation. They dress in silly costumes, they sing, dance and drink copious
quantities of alcohol without (in the main) causing any social upsets.
They also have crazy traditions... right now, for example, in
Bavaria, there will be teams of Germans in villages all over the state
plotting ingenious ways of stealing the neighbouring village's Maypole.
Why? Because once they manage to steal it, the Maypole can be held to
ransome (beer and bratwursts are usually the demand). The only "rule" is
that when the team is out on a Maypole raid, they are obliged to leave
their own Maypole unguarded....
Scott: What part was the most fun to write?
I enjoyed writing most of it. But the really fun bits for me are the
stories which kind of forced their own way into the book. They aren't
there because they were essential to the plot or belonged in the
structure... they are the stories which just had to be told, come hell
or high water. Like about serving curry to the Germans, or sneaking
pumpkins into the house. I also enjoyed all of the characters in the
book - of course they're all based on people I know. But it was lovely
to develop them and savour their individuality.
Scott: How much of this is true and how much is fiction?
I'm not telling.
OK... I'll tell you one story which partly explains a bit about my
writing process. The family was sitting around the tea-table one day
last year and I was trying to work out what to say about the St.
Martin's Day parade. We all recounted our favourite experiences, and
what we remembered from last year and how the lanterns were made and
Then we talked about the parade itself, and how we'd been walking right up front, directly behind the horse.
Diana: "Do you remember when the horse did a poo.*giggle*"
Alex: "And it nearly hit Dad. Mum - in your book, can you make it hit Dad"
Dad: "What? You can't write that!"
Me: "Shall we take a vote?"
Alex: "OK - the poo hits Dad."
*helpless laughter from all kids*