Originally published here
http://blogcritics.org/interview-bob-mehr-author-of-trouble-boys-the-true-stories-of-the-replacements/
Bob Mehr has pulled off quite an accomplishment, writing a biography of one of my favorite bands, The Replacements. What
made the band’s story hard to tell, and the reason the book is a dense
435 pages, is what made the band hard to love at times. They seemed at
times to revel in disappointing fans at their shows. In Trouble Boys: The True Story of the Replacements,
Mehr chronicles how Paul Westerberg, leader singer and main songwriter,
time after time would have the band up to hijinks ranging from
switching instruments to playing covers instead of their own songs,
during concerts that could help make their career and lives easier.
A big show with influential people who can help promote the album?
They’d do a terrible job at that concert, driving everyone away. A show
with few folks? Oh, that one they’d do amazing at. It was a pattern
repeated throughout their career and chronicled in the book.
There are many bands who never hit it big but were loved and
influenced many other musicians and bands who came after them. What
makes The Replacements heartbreaking is they had the potential to become
bigger. However, they kept hijacking their own career, sometimes with
the hijinks I mentioned, sometimes by literally burning their earnings
for a show, and other times by personally insulting producers, radio
personalities and anyone else that could help them.
The band lived down to many rock group stereotypes and cliches:
Destroying tour buses, vans, rooms and furniture (and even instruments
of people they were working with), getting drunk and stoned often.
Sure, some of their obstacles to success came from events beyond
their control, as was the case with one of their best songs, “The
Ledge,” about a boy contemplating suicide. Westerberg wrote it about his
own personal experience with the subject. The song was set to be the
lead single of what Warner Brothers thought would be their breakthrough
album, Pleased to Meet Me. But MTV banned the song after some
recent high-profile suicides and even radio stations who had been
playing the song soon stopped. Bad luck like that plagued the band.
At the same time they were living this hard life, Westerberg was
writing some of his best songs, which were often slower with tender,
thoughtful lyrics that did not match the hard-rocking style of the first
few album. Those poignant tunes foreshadowed problems with the band’s
direction.
Mehr meticiously describes the band’s evolution from album to album.
How the band moved from rocking hard to having some slower numbers
(still mixed with harder rocking songs), but ultimately moving from a
band that would rehearse and record together to Paul Westerberg
recording pretty much by himself to the band breaking up as Westerberg
went solo.
Some rock band biographies glaze over the hard, emotionally
challenging parts of a band’s career focusing on the fun stuff instead.
And, sure, some of this is hilarious like the band’s behavior when they
got their first big break on TV, performing on Saturday Night Live, and
between being drunk and, more problematic for the live show, cussing on
air, leaving them not appearing again on television for years.
But Mehr, a veteran music journalist, not only tackled the band
members’ struggles with alcoholism and drug addiction but even chooses
to start the book at a tough emotional place, namely the 1995 funeral of
founding member Bob Stinson, the guitarist whose alcohol and drug
problems grew so problematic that he was kicked out of the band. This
was complicated even more by the fact that one of the other main and
founding members was Bob’s little brother, Tommy. Detractors of the band
considered Bob the soul of the band and his removal more proof the band
was getting more mellow and common.
And with that let’s start the interview, which Mehr was gracious
enough to conduct with me, about this book written with the
participation of most of the band members.
Why do you think this band, without awards or great sales, are still so important to its fans?
The songs Paul Westerberg wrote, the legend the band carved out for
itself, the fact that they fell short commercially in their time — all
those things have kept them powerful and relevant. Also, there was some
mysterious intangible quality to them — as people, as a band — that
resonated so deeply with those who heard and saw the Replacements. I
think that people connected with the Replacements musically, emotionally
and almost spiritually. That’s largely due to the fact that they were
so purely themselves. There was no “act” or image that they were
flogging. They were who they were, onstage and off, in the songs, and in
the street. That’s a rare quality in rock and roll, and even rarer in
show business in general. That’s what’s precious about the band.
What do you think readers who are fans of the band will be most surprised to learn in your book?
Hopefully, everything. I tried to write the history of the band
almost from scratch. To probe more deeply into their pasts and personal
lives than anyone had ever done, in order to understand what each of
them brought to the group, and how it impacted their career. Certainly, I
think there are revelations about the early life of Bob Stinson that
are difficult and shocking, but that holds true to varying degrees with
all the members of the band. Also, I think people will come to
understand the psychology and dynamics of a rock and roll band, and the
politics of the music business of the 1980s in a way they haven’t
before.
What were you most surprised to learn when researching this book?
Just how much went into the formation of the Replacements. That while
the group seemed almost fated to come together, there was still years
of pain and study and graft and so much life that had to come before the
magic evening in 1979 when Paul Westerberg found the Stinson brothers
and Chris Mars in that basement in South Minneapolis. It made me value
and grasp the idea that there’s a whole lifetime of moments that lead to
the birth of any great and important band. And the Replacements are a
perfect example of that.
What’s your favorite song and album and why?
My favorite song is probably “Color Me Impressed” off of their third album, Hootenanny.
I think that song and that album mark the key transitional point in the
group’s musical evolution. They started out as a snotty punk band, and
quickly decided that their real rebellion would come in their ability to
try (and sometimes fail) playing any and every kind of music. So for
those reasons Hootenanny, and its best and most
quintessentially Westerbergian track, “Color Me Impressed’ rank as my
favorites. At least for today — if you ask me tomorrow you’d probably
get a different answer.
What did band members think of the finished product of the book and did they request and changes?
Part of my informal “deal” with the band at the outset was that
although they would participate fully, they had no editorial control or
veto power over the finished product. It was my book to write.
The only real allowances I made in that regard was with the Stinson
family. Since I was dealing with such sensitive and painful matters from
their past, I wanted to be sure I was portraying everything accurately
and delicately, particularly since they weren’t part of the band and
hadn’t signed up for this project as such. Fortunately, everyone
involved on the family side approved of the job I’d done, even though
the subject matter was very difficult.
As for Paul and Tommy, their reactions were much as I expected:
discomfort with much of what was depicted in the book, but also a sense
that I had taken the task seriously, and created a biography worthy of
their legacy. It’s not an easy book by any stretch – certainly not for
those closest to the story. But as Paul told me many years ago when he
agreed to be a part of this, the only way to do the Replacements tale
any justice is to tell everything honestly.
Do you recommend the book be read while listening to the band’s albums?
Absolutely. One of the things I’ve been most pleased about in hearing
from people who’ve read the book is that it’s given them a new
appreciation for the music and songs, or that they’ve been able to hear
the albums in a new way. Or even that it’s made them reconsider records
or tunes they’d once dismissed. Given that I go into the writing and
record of each album in depth, I think absorbing the music along with
the story is an ideal way to immerse yourself in the Replacements world.
Why did you decide to start the book with the funeral for Bob Stinson?
Ultimately, Bob’s life and death are pivotal to both the book’s
narrative and the history of the band. Although it might seem a
counter-intuitive or bold choice to begin that way, it felt like
starting the story with anything else would almost be a cop out. For the
book to really function the way I wanted it to, it was essential for
readers to understand the stakes for this group from the very first
page.
Do you think there will be any future reunions?
That’s not something I could ever speculate on with any insight. Paul
and Tommy tend to march to their own beat. I think the recent 2013-2015
reunion started fairly spontaneously, and continued on because of the
tremendous creative momentum and public demand. If they never play
another show, I think the reunion served its purpose: to show that the
Replacements are a deeply beloved group, that they have reached a
critical mass in terms of their popularity (as proven by the tens of
thousands who showed up to see them), and most importantly that their
music will live on long after we’re all gone.
For those who have not read this book how would describe your
own relationship with the Replacements? Were you really one of their
drivers on some of their tours?
No, I was just a fan, first and foremost — one of those great many
people who loved the band as much for what seemed to be their philosophy
as their music. Then I became a professional music critic and
journalist and developed casual connections with the group. I had no
real relationship with them beyond that before starting this project.
But I think that’s probably what allowed me to write the book as I did. I
came at it with an outsider’s curiosity, but wanting to tell an
insider’s story. I hope I succeeded in that.
Which do you prefer, writing magazine articles or a book?
I tend to have a kind of monomaniacal focus when it comes to writing.
So anything that can satisfy or appease that — whether it’s a book or
long form magazine feature is something I enjoy.
The whole idea of immersing yourself in a subject — be it for a couple weeks for an article, or eight years, like it was with Trouble Boys, is what I love most.
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